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Personal Finance (Not Investing) • "up to 85%" taxable Social Security benefits

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Many websites say that "up to 85%" of Social Security retirement benefits may be taxable as income. But they don't ever say what is the threshold that hits the full 85%. Please give some examples of combinations of modified AGI $$ and Social Security $$ that reach the 85% threshold ... (underline added)
Since "AGI" (Adjusted Gross Income) includes the taxable portion of SS, it's better to show combinations of Other Income and SS where the maximum 85% of the SS benefit becomes taxable. Several of the posts in this old thread show examples and also formulas for determining that amount. I see that RMWinCalifornia, the original poster, hasn't frequented the forum for several months. But other members may find the following graphical representation a worthwhile addition to the thread.

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Here's the graph's source data:

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Row             Col A     Col B     Col C  Formula in Column C  2  Single=1/Joint=2         1         2  3     50% threshold    25,000    32,000  =CHOOSE(C2,25000,32000)  4     85% threshold    34,000    44,000  =CHOOSE(C2,34000,44000)    5        SS benefit    --Other Income--

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  6             4,500    33,603    43,603  =IF($A6<(C$4-C$3),C$4-(0.075/0.85)*$A6,(0.425*$A6+0.5*C$3+0.35*C$4)/0.85)  7             9,000    33,206    43,206   | | |  8            12,000    34,706    42,941   | | |  9            15,000    36,206    44,441   | | | 10            18,000    37,706    45,941   | | | 11            21,000    39,206    47,441   | | | 12            24,000    40,706    48,941   | | | 13            27,000    42,206    50,441   | | | 14            30,000    43,706    51,941   | | | 15            33,000    45,206    53,441   | | | 16            36,000    46,706    54,941   | | | 17            39,000    48,206    56,441   | | | 18            42,000    49,706    57,941   | | | 19            45,000    51,206    59,441   | | | 20            48,000    52,706    60,941   | | | 21            51,000    54,206    62,441   | | | 22            54,000    55,706    63,941   | | | 23            57,000    57,206    65,441   | | | 24            60,000    58,706    66,941   | | | 25            63,000              68,441   | | | 26            66,000              69,941   | | | 27            69,000              71,441   | | | 28            72,000              72,941   | | | 29            75,000              74,441   | | | 30            78,000              75,941   | | | 31            81,000              77,441   | | | 32            84,000              78,941   | | | 33            87,000              80,441   | | | 34            90,000              81,941   | | | 35            93,000              83,441   v v v 36            96,000              84,941  =IF($A36<(C$4-C$3),C$4-(0.075/0.85)*$A36,(0.425*$A36+0.5*C$3+0.35*C$4)/0.85)
The formula in cell C6 is copied down to row 36. Also the formulas in cells C6:C24 are copied to column B. The first part of the formula ("($A6<(C$4-C$3),C$4-(0.075/0.85)*$A6" in cell C6) handles the case of small SS that is less than the difference between the two thresholds (9,000 for single and 12,000 for joint). That accounts for the kink at the bottom left of the two graphs.

Statistics: Posted by #Cruncher — Tue Feb 03, 2026 1:31 pm — Replies 29 — Views 5852



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